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Post by mr. worncoat on Apr 28, 2011 23:15:21 GMT
There seems to be some agreement on how this movie may not end up meeting much in the way of expectations. Maybe it will, maybe it won't, but what I ask is: How would you write the script? What would YOU do to make this the greatest sequel you could? Maybe you wouldn't even make it a direct sequal, maybe it would stand with its own independent storyline. Still, how would you do it? My silly idea, spoilered just because: Personally, I'd have kept it a direct sequal to the first movie. It would become evident that Alessa isn't happy with Samael (or Dark Alessa, whatever you want to call it) walking off with Rose and Sharon. Unpleasantries are traded. Sharon has Dahlia killed off through two patsies. When Chris sneaks back into Silent Hill, he's unknowingly stuck in the middle of this.
Thinking himself alone, he suddenly meets a young woman and a heavy-set guy. Claudia and Eddie. At first they act like they're helping him, but soon try to get off him, too (tools of Samael). At the last minute, Alessa takes in Chris and informs him that to free Sharon and Rose, he'll have to get the Flauros, an object kept in the island sanctuary in the middle of Toluca Lake.
Just as he grabs the Flauros, Eddie and Claudia show up again, this time with Rose and "Sharon". Chris almost hands over the Flouros before he realizes something's up, and a scuffel breaks out, where Eddie gets shot. Chris attempts to use the Flauros, but fails because, you know, how the hell would he understand how to use the stupid thing?
Samael finally has enough of it all and has Rose try to grab it away from Chris when all hell breaks loose as Alessa rips into the scene with Lisa. Samael takes Alessa, Lisa takes Claudia, Rose takes Chris. The whole thing escalates to where Chris realizes he can't "get to" Rose, and fatally wounds her to keep from having his throat slit.
At this point, the Flaurus is activated, Claudia runs, the final battle ends. However, through all of this, Rose and Sharon are pretty much at death's door. In a final act of kindness, Alessa works her mojo and reconfigures herself, Rose, and Sharon into a single baby girl. Lisa slinks away with the Flaurous, and Chris leaves to start anew. Roll credits.
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Post by blacky on Apr 28, 2011 23:55:11 GMT
I would just remake Shattered Memories. (Spoilers ahoy) I woulden't be arsed to try to do something with the mess from the first film. Besides the Shattered Memories story lends itself to the movie structure very well, it is easily understood, without any crazy cult stuff to bog it down. The end is very film like, with an plot twist simular to Jacobs ladder or The sixth sense.
It would be much more scarier though, mabye replace the icey otherworld with the orginal otherworld, or mabye an combination of the two. The therapy scenes would have to be shot masterfully too, to ensure Cheryl's identity remains secret till the end.
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Post by alx on Apr 29, 2011 1:46:11 GMT
I'd do something completely unexpected... A faithful adaptation of SH2. The biggest problem would be which ending to use. While I really want to go with In Water, the studio would shit a brick and it would never fly with the focus groups
Then I would have to go with the Bite Me ending
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Post by dreggnog on Apr 29, 2011 3:11:10 GMT
Surprisingly enough, pretty much what alx said. A couple of character conversations and maybe a level or two would have to be left out to get it down to two hours, but considering how much repetitive monster fighting and searching for keys takes place in a video game and not in a movie, it's certainly do-able.
Although, part of me would also want to just throw the first film in the trash and redo that one the way I want. That most likely wouldn't be allowed though.
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Post by Redemption on May 2, 2011 10:33:41 GMT
I think Silent Hill, Silent Hill 2, Silent Hill 4 and shattered memories could all be re-jiggered a little to create a good stand alone film. I don't think this film had to follow on from the original. I mean, its been years since the first one. For some reason, i think its the Studio that want's to do the direct follow up. They could do a heap of original stories if they spun off into a silent hill 2 direction.'
I wouldn't mind seeing an adaption of The Room. Cut out one or two of the worlds, and work the ghosts into the story wonder the halls of the apartment complex. Problem with that is, it could create a very different opinion of what the silent hill series stands for. and considering the game has very little to do with Silent Hill itself.
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Post by blacky on May 4, 2011 0:24:24 GMT
Kinda predictable that everyone would say Silent hill 2, though admitingly it would be my second choice.
The hotel at the end of the game would make a great scene, how it's just like how we remembers dispite the fact is had burned down. It's an rarely toucthed upon concept that could do with further exploration.
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Post by dreggnog on May 4, 2011 11:44:19 GMT
^ The background "music" for the Other Motel would have to be there too, otherwise it just wouldn't feel right. And of course it's predictable that we'd say Silent Hill 2, that's what the movie's called.
I feel like a lot of the game's scenes would work well pretty close to as they are in a film. The combat would have to look more interesting of course. I actually wouldn't mind if James action heroed the enemies a little as long as there weren't too many and Pyramid Head still kicked his butt.
I'm just worried they would change too much when it's really not as necessary as it was with the first game, which had far fewer scenes (although to me that means there was no excuse to leave so many (read: all) of them out.
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Post by alx on May 4, 2011 14:08:42 GMT
Look, we had no way of knowing that the first installment was going to suck... Sure, we had plenty of misgivings but nothing compelling enough to be certain
This time we have everything we need to know that it is going to suck. Hard. To hope otherwise is to be a willing victim and you'll get what you deserve
There is a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things and they are most definitely doing this one the studio way, which means that they will be bending the right way over a trashcan and double teaming it with the wrong way in a back alley. If you pay to see this abortion then on some level you consent to that sort of behavior
If these arseholes can't even be trusted to count correctly then obviously they are going to fuck everything else up. If you want to pretend differently then you are the sort of person who leaves their house when it is pouring rain but doesn't bother to bring an umbrella 'cos you assume the weather will improve just for you
And you get soaked, time and time again 'cos you never learn
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Post by blacky on May 4, 2011 15:48:17 GMT
^ exactly is why I am thinking of giving this upcomming film a miss, unless of course I see signs of improvement. it's always possible you know, Silent hill origins didn't end up nowhere near as bad as early previews suggested.
though I say that with a sense of fatalism, the film no doubt will make enougth profit to justify their actions anyways. There are fans that will eat up anything tied to their beloved frachise regardless of quality as long it throws up enougth referances to their favorite characters and events. And in these days money from those sort of people is enougth to surport an entire franchise of films.
Which is why I put Shattered Memories first, it broke off and did it's own thing, as did Silent hill 2 in it's time. Or another idea is a completly brand new story all together with new characters. The silent hill quality would be there, but the film would have to stand up by itself and not use so many nods to fans as an crutch. That way people will wacth it for it's own merits and not for Nostalgic value. And that way more effort will be put into the story and the quality will improve. The creators will be focusing on trying to scare us, and not focousing on what next scene would have Alessa, Rose or Pyramid Head making an appearance.
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Post by alx on May 4, 2011 22:48:16 GMT
Just who the hell is Rose? Or Chris and Sharon for that matter? I've never even heard of the DaSalvas. Are they from Raccoon City? Cos they sure as hell aren't from Silent Hill. They sound like a buncha sods who sit around saying meow to each other... The creators will be focusing on trying to scare us, and not focousing on what next scene would have Alessa, Rose or Pyramid Head making an appearance.
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Post by dreggnog on May 4, 2011 22:52:24 GMT
^ exactly is why I am thinking of giving this upcomming film a miss, unless of course I see signs of improvement. it's always possible you know, Silent hill origins didn't end up nowhere near as bad as early previews suggested. That's because we complained and they changed EVERYTHING. But anyway, I'm also considering not going to see this film. If it's not hated by critics and Silent Hill fans, I may rent it. Maybe. alx, that made me laugh.
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Post by blacky on May 5, 2011 0:48:28 GMT
Just who the hell is Rose? Or Chris and Sharon for that matter? I've never even heard of the DaSalvas. Are they from Raccoon City? Cos they sure as hell aren't from Silent Hill. They sound like a buncha sods who sit around saying meow to each other... The creators will be focusing on trying to scare us, and not focousing on what next scene would have Alessa, Rose or Pyramid Head making an appearance. Well when I wrote that sentance I was including fans who loved the first film and would get a fangasm if Rose was to return, among the game fans who would get one from Alessa and Pyramid head. And to be fair, Rose is just a female Harry. Come on, Harry from the first game barley had anything to him. He had a dead wife, a daughter, wrote books...pretty much it. Lets not delude ourselfs into thinking that the protagonist of the main source materal was any better than the one in the film
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Post by alx on May 5, 2011 2:23:09 GMT
Don't know what you call fair shakes where you come from but it doesn't look fair from here. Harry was a character in a genre breaking game that got translated into English and you know how bad most videogame ports are... Rose was a bolted on character in a film with a crap script. I've seen her act better in other films. In fact, everyone attached to the movie has done better work in other films At any rate, for what they had to work with, Harry was acceptable and even when he was bad it was better somehow. Rose was awful and everyone knew better so no excuses And to be fair, Rose is just a female Harry. Come on, Harry from the first game barley had anything to him. He had a dead wife, a daughter, wrote books...pretty much it. Lets not delude ourselfs into thinking that the protagonist of the main source materal was any better than the one in the film
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Post by blacky on May 5, 2011 17:56:22 GMT
Had there been an well acted Japanese track on the orginal game and they only screwed up on the english, I would be more forgiving, But since they orignally recorded it in English only (the motion actors were also the voice actors, and were english) the acting hits me as a big fuck up no different from the film. And besides, if there were decent harry reactions in the game's orginal script (screaming, feeling frightend, anything other than restrained monotone) surely some of it would of made it into the translating, I hardly doubt the translator read the script and decided to cut out all the realistic reactions
On that thought, I wonder what a Silent Hill film would be like if handed over to an Asain Studio? That would make for one tense film. And no burning Witches thats for sure! Would be good for SH2 or shattered Memories, Asian film makers are good at getting that balance of horror and tragedy. They want to upset you.
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Post by alx on May 5, 2011 23:04:54 GMT
I know SH3 had a Japanese track, and I thought the others did too. My bad. Hell yes, the movie would rock if they had an Asian director! As far as I'm concerned, you are in charge of the studio
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