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Post by blacky on May 10, 2011 21:00:46 GMT
Another thing I would change for an adaption of SH2 would be emphasis on the James and Mary relationship. We see little of Mary in the game, with the plotline about being about surpressed feelings of guilt for her death I would of thought we need to know more of who she was. there is no reason for their relationship to be mysterious. And also her disease, you know I played through the game a few times and yet this developmental image still surprised me, Because at the end, we don't get a good look at an sick mary as James make his peace with her. So I didn't realise her disease was that bad, I mean look at her. She looks like an hiroshima survior dying from Radiation sickness. There's so much you can do with that. Her degraduating physical health and appearance is a great meatphor for the declining relationship between James and Mary that leads to her death. And for such a cute couple to go through that, such an heartbreaking drama would be worth the price of admission alone. The rest would be icing on the cake. Another thing I didn't understand about the game, why was the reveal of Mary's death so difficult to see? I understand the method of suggestion, but it was almost like they dumped an 'Censored' sign over it. Why did they remove the sound of Mary's struggle? It just downplayed the shock of it. For me this would part of the climatic section of the film, we need to be shocked. This could be a heart wrecthing scene that could disturb the viewer way after the film has finished. Lets not confuse them as to what happened. Forget the water ending, clearly showing a man smother a very sick woman would really make the studio nervous. But Silent Hill should have balls damn it.
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Post by mr. worncoat on May 11, 2011 9:59:40 GMT
Such a lovely close-up you have there. I have to agree that Silent Hill 2 as a stand-alone film adaptation would be a neat thing to watch, especially if we got to see James putting his dear wife to sleep.
But I have to say, as I've said countless times before, that I just don't get the hate for the first film. Or the "meow" scene. If anything, I felt that scene to be one of the few scenes that added to the film. To me, it made Rose and Sharon's relationship that much more believable. Yes, it might have been corny and stupid, but family does a lot of corny stuff that looks stupid to outsiders. You can't really tell me that as a kid, you and your parents didn't share some moments that might not be "cool" now, but were great then and, in memory, may even still carry with them some meaning now.
I really don't think that Gans was THAT far off from the mark. This second movie, in whatever ways it's going to ruin itself, only is going to do so because we've changed leadership. Just saying.
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Post by blacky on May 11, 2011 13:39:04 GMT
Yeah I've always been forgiving about the first film because of the things they did get right, such as the direction and feel. And I too also appreciated the effort to put feeling into the mother and daughter relationship between Rose and Sharon. I mean would we really of preferred if they stuck with the game's direction? We never knew who Cheryl was, she was barely in it. Other than Harry's concern, we never got the sense of what his relationship with his daughter was like. Seems to be a habit with Team Silent
I think to be fair, making a film like Silent hill can't be easy. coming up with the ideas is easy enough, but getting everyone on it probably isn't. We should been thankful the studios didn't screw with it too much. However I guess screw ups were bound to happen on the first try. The job of this upcoming film should of been to correct those screw ups, but they just seem to be making new and worser ones.
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Post by mr. worncoat on May 13, 2011 9:42:11 GMT
Which is why this topic exists, so we can for the briefest moment imagine a film that wouldn't let us down.
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Post by dreggnog on May 14, 2011 11:18:33 GMT
@ Blacky (top of page) Whoa. That's a good point, and really puts a new spin on my feelings towards SH2. Personally I like not understanding what happened to Mary until James said it, that feels like it fits into the amnesia thing, plus hearing her struggle probably wouldof felt more SH3-ish to me, but that picture... That should've been somewhere in there. It's true what you say, it really adds another layer to the game. I might've spent a little less time feeling sorry for Laura and a little more time feeling sorry for Mary.
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Post by alx on May 14, 2011 14:04:40 GMT
You felt worse for Laura than you did for Mary? I am starting to believe that you really don't have any friends...
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Post by dreggnog on May 15, 2011 1:14:07 GMT
You felt worse for Laura than you did for Mary? I am starting to believe that you really don't have any friends... Laura is my favorite game character ever. I am starting to believe that we are very different people. And I do have friends. That is one of the few subjects a nimrod (or whatever) like me could be insulted on.
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Post by blacky on May 17, 2011 15:46:07 GMT
I can understand how someone could like laura more, she is one of the characters who pop up the most. She is also one of our main ties with Mary. Unlike confused James, she has more realiable information.
Never brought her part in the leave ending, why would she leave with James knowing he killed Mary? Even if he tried to explain, a girl that young woulden't understand. She would be scared of him, this fart faced murderer that killed the nicest woman that she ever known.
I always thought she let him off lightly at his confession too, she was angry but not horrfied or freaked out. She is surpossed to be eight right? you have any idea what eight year olds are like? You can mentally scar them just by telling them about the bogyman and then walk in on them at night wearing a face pack. Laura should of been all over the place.
Not sure what ending I would have for an movie adaption, The leave ending would need work. The in water ending just seems odd to me, James went all that way just to kill himself? Why didn't he just give up at the Pyramid Head battle? He knew the truth at that point, if he really wanted to die he would of done it then.
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Post by patient on May 23, 2011 5:01:13 GMT
I also go with the SH2 idea. It'd work if they were truly faithful to it and actually put effort into researching the game and all of the underlying psychology and subtleties. Not only would this be a good thing, but it would put significantly less emphasis on Silent Hill's cult and more on Silent Hill's psychology and horror, and maybe even bring up the question of how the town came to be this way and how we, the audience, are seeing monsters that aren't entirely "there" attacking the protagonist.
Don't attack someone for liking a character; all Silent Hill characters have redeeming qualities. Also, I am so sick and tired of the "you don't have a life" or "you don't have any friends" insult. Please try a little harder not to come off as a jack ass.
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Post by dreggnog on May 23, 2011 11:49:08 GMT
I agree that the Leave ending would need work, I also didn't believe Laura's part in it. I also dislike the reading of the letter, unlike many. I mainly like that ending for Mary forgiving James, which I felt was important. I like it when depressing things have happy endings, as long as I can stretch my imagination enough to believe them. With Laura I couldn't, with Mary I could.
In Water was okay, but I just prefer Leave. Maria ending was neat but I little annoying, maybe they could make that and put it as an alternate ending on the dvd or something. And I think we can just throw Rebirth and UFO out the window.
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