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Post by Lolli on Oct 14, 2010 15:36:50 GMT
Oooh a Robbie icon, thankyou
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Post by Pseudosapien on Oct 14, 2010 17:11:12 GMT
*a-HEM* It is Robbie with a trophy on his head. On his head! It's so crazy that it could dent your sanity with a glance, and as such is a pretty hardcore award I'd say. ....I'll see about getting some better icons made...
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Post by Toadkiller Dog on Oct 14, 2010 18:22:51 GMT
Congratulations Lolli.
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Post by dreggnog on Oct 15, 2010 11:56:39 GMT
Neat! Good job Lolli! You may not have been the most frequent jokester, but you had the best joke in the lineup IMO.
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Post by Lolli on Oct 15, 2010 23:49:33 GMT
Aww thanks guys ^_^
@ Pseudo: Y'know, I never noticed the trophy until now and I do believe I have gone slightly madder. Does just what it says on the tin!
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Post by Kiryū Kazuma on Oct 17, 2010 13:46:40 GMT
3 more days of voting for games category guys and gals thanks to those that have voted so far very exciting at the moment as it is very close
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Post by Kiryū Kazuma on Oct 19, 2010 23:09:03 GMT
EDIT -
The Votes have been counted and verified I can announce The this is a dead heat! The Crimson One for Caption Contest & Vio for 10th Castle RPG so far!
Votes are open until Sunday UK time! so get votting guys make one of these guys happy or I am sure Dhalia will be reseurected to come haunt you with funky time or PH will turn his attention away from James to yous!
Good luck!
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Post by Kiryū Kazuma on Oct 25, 2010 8:56:56 GMT
Right ok guys FINAL results to be anounced later today
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Post by Kiryū Kazuma on Oct 25, 2010 22:27:47 GMT
Well done to The Crimson One for Caption Contest & Vio for 10th Castle RPG joint gamesmasters of SHFO 2010 hugs and PH all round! next round to be up this week!
after extra days voting votes that came through did not make a difference
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Post by dreggnog on Oct 26, 2010 0:35:56 GMT
^ That's interesting. I've actually never been on that thread. I voted for ^<V forum game myself because I enjoy getting to blather on about nothing and talk about what I'm eating.
I wonder what the next one will be... This has turned out to be a pretty good idea!
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Post by Vio on Oct 26, 2010 2:49:07 GMT
--so does that mean I get half a rabbit with half a trophy on his head, as long as I can pet it, and take it on walks, I'm cool with it.-- Next Category is SHF Theorist, check out the threads to see which one expands your mind the most! You guys can read this as either what is the cooler interpretation of Silent Hill lore, the best conservation starter, or the post that said what we were all thinking but were afraid to say! Be sure to click on the date and time above the quote to look at the thread itself! It is my turn to count the votes, so votes should be sent to me by PM, but keep in mind that I am also counting the votes for the caption contest, so specify what you are voting for! The polls will be open for one week! ChilnakWarning: unmarked spoilers!! Warning 2: LLLLLOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGG!!!!! I summarize (sort of) in the last paragraph. My theory is this: the power of the town was originally neutral, and was slowly tainted by the cumulative effects of the horrible things that kept on occurring there after it was settled by the European colonists. It had been considered a sacred place by the Native Americans, and they may have made pilgrimages there to have a real life version of a vision quest, or to perform holy ceremonies, but they probably never made any permanent settlements in the region. The manifestory powers of the area reflect what is in the minds of the people who visit there, but the natives probably did not visit in sufficient numbers or for a long enough duration to have any lasting impact on the neutrality of Silent Hill's power. Once the colonials settled the region, however, the history of the region just gets bloodier and darker as the years go on. The power of the town is certainly mnemonic, retaining echoes of information and effects caused by the people who influence it; with so much misery and suffering occurring there over the years, the "mirror," so to speak, got dirty. The colonials incorporated elements of the native religions in the area to the predominantly christian religions they brought with them. They would have, like wickedglee said, incorporated new details into their beliefs to accommodate the actual supernatural potential of the area. These beliefs create expectations, which the town fulfills (possibly in very abstract ways,) which creates more expectations, which the town fulfills (more specifically), which creates stronger expectations, so on and so forth. As time goes on and the power of the town gets darker, the expectations become colored with fear, which twists the power of the town even more, and creates more fear. As the final flavor, you can also add the power hungry opportunists who always show up to profit off such a situation. The religion slowly becomes a scary Native American version of fire and brimstone and no mercy and you better do this, this and that to earn protection from the Lovecraftianly horrible nature of true reality that exists JUST OUT OF SIGHT. The faithful believe in god (or rather several, depending on which sect they belong to) then god they shall have. The towns power is quite dark by now, and molded into more specific forms of manifestation that fit the expectations of the now quite ordered and solidly established religion. The town's manifestations include things like supernatural powers possessed by some of its inhabitants (people like Dahlia, Alessa Claudia, and Walter.) Enter Dahlia, who, being both an opportunist and a true believer, gets tired of waiting for god and decides to take the initiative. She implants her deity in embryonic form (as she expected it to be by the precepts of her faith) into her daughter Alessa, who has very powerful abilities manifested to her by Silent Hill. An interesting aspect of the town's power, it seems to me, is that once it has made a manifestation, that manifestation supports itself. It does not need to be sustained by the town in order to continue to exist. For example, the powers that Alessa or Claudia possessed, while created by the town, were REAL, and could be used anywhere in the world. I imagine if Heather ran away to Chicago, Claudia would have found her there and we would have played through an evil version of the Sears Tower. That being the case, Alessa's power (more powerful than Dahlia realized?) ended up interacting with the town's power in SH1 resulting in it spiraling out of control and growing more powerful by several orders of magnitude (and gaining the ability to create entire alternate dimensions of reality.) EVIL SUPERNATURAL GROUND ZEROWhich leaves Silent Hill in the state it is in for the various games in the series. Whew! Ran out of steam! So I guess I'm saying I agree with most of you in that the gods in the game are not real in that they did not participate in the beginning of time or anything like that, they were manifested by Silent Hill. As such, though, they are real because once created they don't rely on the towns power for their existence. However, they don't last very long, because each time one shows up, that particular game's protagonist show up and kills it. ;D So they are not always hanging around, waiting to strike. PatientEveryone knows that there is symbolism behind each monster. In SH2, the abstract daddy is directly influenced by Angela's father, Thomas. One could say abstract daddy truly IS her father. Is it possible that the angels and other "creatures" are the same way? Valtiel. Pyramid head. The fukuro lady. Robbie. For the longest time, I've been wondering that if the fukuro lady is Lisa Garland, that Valtiel may be Kaufmann. Or perhaps Valtiel is Travis, since Travis was, in a sense, also close to god. Now hear me out. I know how crazy it may sound. The fukuro lady being Lisa Garland, for example--I had gone back and forth on the fukuro = Lisa theory. At one point I decided it was impossible that they were the same, but now I'm not so sure. More evidence leads up to that possibility. The biggest piece I have found is this: translatedmemories.com/bookpgs/Pg92-93.jpgAt the very bottom of the right page, it reads: It says it right there. Right there. In the first game, Lisa was suffering... and then she appeared to have dragged Michael Kaufmann down to the Otherworld with her. Kaufmann was very close to god, because he and Dahlia were two of the main people involved in it. Also, hidden behind the foggy glass in the hospital, Valtiel appears to be either hurting her or molesting her. In Silent Hill 0rigins, Michael and Lisa were caught by Travis on a bed doing drugs, I believe. I always got a sort of sexual implication from this. That's why there is a slight chance that Kaufmann may have some link to Valtiel. In all honesty, though, I don't think so. I think it's more likely that the male saint, seen in a painting in the church, is actually Valtiel. He was way closer to god because he was her doctor. I'm sorry, but I do not recall his name. He had a portrait just as Saint Jennifer had a portrait as well. Now, in the case that Lisa is merely meant to suffer forever in the Otherworld, it makes sense that monsters just abuse her to fulfill that purpose. In the fukuro video, Pyramid head is responsible for the abuse, and then in SH3 Valtiel takes over. As for The Red Pyramid Thing, I think he is Jimmy Stone. Pyramid Head's twin, then, would be George Rosten. Why do I think that? For this particular reason. images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090415161235/silent/images/7/78/Jimmy_Stone_02.jpg He was the priest that was nicknamed "The Red Devil." He was the one who sacrificed sinners. As of other creatures, like Robbie, I'm not sure who they could be. I do know that any robed bodies seen hanging around, like in SH1 and SH3 have a connection to Valtiel, however. St. AatosWhat, no theories here at all? Ahh, well time to change that. Since the arrival of SH0 and SHH I've had more theories come to mind. This one however is for Silent Hill 1. (Note that I originally wrote this for the Hell Descent forum, and nothing has been altered.) *** Earlier tonight I got an IM from Samael. We were talking about Silent Hill, and he mentioned something that got me thinking. In the school Harry finds the roster, and one of the names on it is 'K.Gordon' Later, after defeating the giant lizard, Alessa appears and then disappears. Harry finds a key on the floor. The key to Gordon's house. I never thought much of it, until Samael mentioned that in Gordon's house there are broken plates. One in the kitchen, and one in the dining room. He then said that there was blood on the garage door. I immediately thought of the key, and wondered how Alessa got a hold of it. Now, I suppose we could assume that the key was some kind of magic illusion thing, but every other item in the game was real. Why make one key an illusion? If the key is real, then Alessa had to have gotten it somehow. So I started thinking, what if Alessa killed Gordon? It would explain the broken plates, the blood on the garage door, and Alessa's acquirement of the key. I was asked why Alessa would do such a thing, and the best answer I could come up with is the following; According to one of the developers, Alessa wants a complete death. It is also mentioned that by using the Seal of Metatron, Alessa was hoping to annihilate the God, herself, and the town/other world. In order to do that, Alessa had to get people away from her. I also have a feeling that Alessa wanted to kill them as an act of benevolence. What if in the back of Alessa's mind, she thought there was a chance that she wouldn't succeed? By killing everyone in her world, she would be sparing them from the coming of 'God'. So how does Gordon fit? Well, it about seems obvious that everyone in the Other world has a strong link to Alessa. Dahlia is Alessa's mother; Harry is Cheryl's father, and by proxy sort of Alessa's father; Lisa was Alessa's caretaker; Dr. Kaufmann seemed to be the one over seeing Alessa's 'care'; (and I'm figuring out Cybil's) Now, we know that Gordon was Alessa's former teacher, and quite likely the one that suspected that Alessa was being abused. I can't say for 100% sure, but is it not possible that Alessa had a certain amount of respect for Gordon? Perhaps (s)he could have been one of the few adults that Alessa trusted (although perhaps not fully.) If this is the case, then Gordon could have easily been pulled into Alessa's world. Also, does anyone else find it just a bit peculiar that when Harry is heading for the school he can't go through the Gordon house. It's not until after he receives the key that he's able to do so. Thoughts?
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Post by Lolli on Oct 26, 2010 18:08:47 GMT
Congrats to the both of you for bringing a little light into the dark depths of the otherworld! And Vio please remember to feed and water your robbie
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Post by Vio on Nov 2, 2010 18:35:14 GMT
I do not have time right now to close the polls and start a new round so the polls are still open, I will start the next round in the next few days.
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Post by Vaan-Knight on Nov 5, 2010 19:44:25 GMT
oh dear, I can't remember if I've voted already... I'll do it now, so if you get two votes from me... Count them anyway.
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Post by Vio on Nov 8, 2010 3:17:08 GMT
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